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...as we are now seeing the return of the pre-1923 railway companies. We've got Sea Containers' GNER, First's GWR, and now a planned "super-franchise" that can only be called the LNWR...

Now what - A 1923-style regrouping that will give us GNER folding into the central and northern franchises to bring back the good old LNER? Or all the London third-rail commuter services as Southern? Or even the new LNWR and Virgin's Cross Country turning into that bastion of railway proprietary, the LMS?

Only those who refuse to learn from history are doomed to repeat it...

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marypcb
Sep. 13th, 2004 06:11 pm (UTC)
now what? it can only be Dr Beeching!
camies
Sep. 13th, 2004 08:39 pm (UTC)
I think it's only too likely given that HMG can see the virtue of renationalising but don't dare do it to the TOCs. On this timescale how long until 1948 and Nationalisation?
drpete
Sep. 14th, 2004 12:47 am (UTC)
We already have the situation where different companies no longer accept certain tickets bought from other networks..

It's a shame there's no romance in it any more, although with woeful journey times, I wonder whether we'll see the "Race for the North" all over again between the "LNER" and "LMS"... Be nice to see an A4 v. A Coronation in the flesh. Doubt it somehow ;o)
camies
Sep. 14th, 2004 01:34 am (UTC)
Fewer, larger companies might at least be able to invest more. Would the Race to the North have been possible on the resources of some tiny pre-Grouping company, back when there were 123 of them?
quercus
Sep. 14th, 2004 03:12 am (UTC)
The Race to the North was pre-grouping. After they'd done that, they realised there was a lot of cost and no extra profit to doing it again, so there was a gentleman's agreement not to. It wasn't until Gresley started the A4s and the streamliner races in the '30s that there was any more competition over timing on those routes.
therealdrhyde
Sep. 14th, 2004 11:26 am (UTC)
Why would anyone want to go to the north, at whatever speed?
the_gardener
Sep. 14th, 2004 02:31 am (UTC)
As I recall, the only one of the pre-WW2 companies which ever ran at a consistent profit was the Southern, precisely because it had a higher level of (regular commuter) traffic than the others. Since the other franchisees are still propped up by subsidy (umpteen years after the initial business plans had them paying the Treasury for the privilege of running trains), this really is a renationalisation in all but name.
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